Thanks for the memories Flipmattic
So there I was, last night, home from work and looking to bang out a quick random and get my Emblem of Frost fix before I went out for the night. I queued up and of course the “Your dungeon is ready” dialogue popped immediately (the joys of tanking). I went in and was happy to see the loading screen for Gundrak. One of the quicker ones, and five emblems to boot. In fact, Cold-Comfort calculated the place to have the shortest time-to-emblem ratio.
Anyway, I had high hopes for the place. We all zone in and I look at my grid to see one of the squares was colored green which denoted that person was in a vehicle. A Kor’kron Suppression Turret, apparently, which means he was doing the Assault by Air daily. “I’ll be there in a bit” he says.
Rather than wait for this considerate person, Flipmattic of Nazjatar, I just pulled the first pack and was off to the races. Thankfully, Flipmattic was able to join us in time to roll need on the wand that dropped off the first boss. When someone pointed out that he had a 219 epic wand, he replied “sorry auto-need lol”. Whatever that means.
At this point all signs were strongly pointing to the guy being a ninja, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt that it was an accident and kept going. Second boss down and he didn’t roll need, which at the time reassured me that the previous incident was an accident. It occurs to me in hindsight, though, that he probably couldn’t roll need on whatever the item was, or else he would have.
Third boss down and some cloth items drops and you know that he needed it. At this point the obvious had manifested itself. Everyone just said “lol” in party chat and I scrolled up to Flipmattic’s earlier “auto-need” defense so I could right click on his name and ignore him (and thus never deal with him again). The 15 minutes had yet to elapse, so we couldn’t kick him.
Eck drops and so does his loot. But it was nothing he could ninja, so it went to DE.
Once we got to the last boss and downed him, Flipmattic quickly needed the orb and the other item he could grab, won both, and immediately dropped group.
Indeed.
So, here’s to you, Flipmattic of Nazjatar. With your 2.2k dps in 5/5 232, unenchanted, ungemmed tier 9. Congrats at mastering the art of being a parasite.
Let’s do something about it
With the advent of cross-server instances and the eventual Battle.net upgrades, Blizzard should look into instituting a system like Xbox’s Reputation system. Every WoW player would have five stars and at the end of the instance you could go to a tab on the Dungeon Finder tool and grade the people you just ran with on a scale of 1-5 stars.
There’d be safeguards in place (like if someone was constantly rating people one star and only one star, their contributions would be excluded from the averages) to prevent griefing.
Then when queueing up for a dungeon, the system would first try to match you with people that had the same reputation with you. Considerate, five star folks would only be matched with other five stars (if none available then they get four star people in their group). Contrawise, all the one star ninjaing, gogogo-ing, dropping-during-a-wave-of-mobs-ing jerks would be stuck with others of their ilk.
Sounds like utopia. It’d probably never work.
In the end, it was just a heroic
And I don’t feel that aggrieved over the loss of two dream shards and an orb. I don’t care about the loot; I just care that this little punk is going to keep queueing up and keep pulling this crap on other dungeons. It’s be nice if there was some form of redress against such blatant douchebaggery.
In the meantime, if you’re in the Shadowburn group and get in a random with this guy, just drop group (since we can’t kick right off the bat). Don’t give Flipmattic the satisfaction of carrying him to the end.
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Totally agree with you. That guys’s the epithome of crap-player we need to get rid of (if possible).
I have to agree with you. Though I’m on the alliance side on Malfurion, I’ve run into him in a few battlegrounds. He’s the type that just seems to want to annoy you, no matter the circumstance.
On some servers, it’s customary to roll need on the frozen orb, simply because it’s the only way to ensure a situation like that doesn’t arise. But needing everything else is just being a douche.
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@Rhidach
5 January 2010 at 1:25 pm #
Maybe, but he waited until everyone rolled (greed) on the orb, then rolled need. And based on his earlier actions, it was clearly premeditated.
@HanaMoonfire
5 January 2010 at 2:13 pm #
Dammit, my feral’s in Shadowburn, and Horde too. :(
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@Rhidach
5 January 2010 at 2:32 pm #
@Hana: I think “/ignore Flipmattic-Nazjatar” will put him on your ignore list and prevent the system from ever matching him up with you.
Since I don’t see a star-rep system implemented anytime soon, someone should start thinking about making a ‘wow-heroes’-like website where you could rate the a-holes you group with that do that kind of thing. It’d be nice to be able to plain drop group in advance by knowing that players reputation.
Yesterday had a huntard roll need on every single Ymiron drop and drop group the same as you saw, just that we didn’t ‘see it coming’.
There’s also some new kind of master douchbaggery where people just kick you mid-fight on last boss, trying to screw you out of the loot and possibly the badges. After seeing that one, I’m usually disturbed when I join an almost-full guild group (ah, the old times where you’d relieved to join some guild run).
There should definitely be a way to punish at very least the worse abusers of this system with a weekly ban or so.
I too have experienced the joys of pugging with ninjas. My last one wasn’t too bad, he only ninja’d the orb at the end, but Nennxt of Seriously Casual (Sargeras) now has an entry on wowjackass.com, which is at least a small comfort.
I play on Illidan, he’s a baby ninja in contrast.
The “screw over the one pugger” boss group-kick move bothers me especially because it’s pretty common for the most night-owl players of our guild to pug out one spot, and we try our best on principle to make sure whatever random helper we get gets a fun, smooth time. The understandable automatic assumption that we plan to screw that person makes me sad.
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Absolutely agree with this. Right after the first need I would’ve left. I’m sorry, but “Auto-Need” doesn’t fly with me. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s definitely gotta be a duck right?
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I have been seeing more and more douchebaggery like this myself. One pug in an otherwise all-guild run was pissed because Demo didn’t have time to do some small heroic achievement that he wanted. Well, instead of dropping group he stayed and on the final boss he needed the orb and everything else and told us to eff ourselves. Fortunately, I recognized that he was a douche and saved my roll. I rolled need as well and won the orb and the epic. One Orb in my bag, one Abyss Crystal in the G-Bank…and one sad little douchebag who will live to angry ninja another day.
By The way, the vote kick needs to be fixed…it takes too long. If it is unanimous then why wait?
Demo and I did a heroic with a DK who was doing 700 DPS…he wasn’t on follow, he was actually running around, and even said a few things in party chat. Obviously he was either the worst player on earth, or he had bought his account, or he was playing someone elses toon…either way It took us 90% of the heroic to kick him. We voted after three or four trash pulls and didn’t get rid of him until just before the last boss….why the wait?
@ Falowin next time coordinate with your tank and healer then toss tricks of the trade on the offender. Leave their dead body on the ground and keep going. If they run back in just rinse and repeat.
Rhidach, that little line of script “/ignore x-y” is going to save me a lot of stress let alone hair on my head. I’ve run into some real winners in my path to the Perky Pug.