Better Late Than Never Friday, 10/16
Wow, I haven’t done one of these in a long, long time. To be honest, this is just filler to cap off the week. On Monday I’ll have what I hope will be a very informative post on tanking strategies for heroic ToC 10, so that will be something of substance to look forward to. As always, I’d appreciate any additions or corrections to any answers I give in the comments!
breastplate of the white knight gems
Let me list them in order: Solid Majestic Zircon, Solid Majestic Zircon, and Solid Majestic Zircon. Ignore the bonus, you’ll lose too much stamina trying to get it.
vindication, paladin, worth it?
Absolutely! Vindication is hands-down a mitigation talent and a must-have for any serious paladin tank. I’m a big fan of self-reliance, and I don’t trust any raider to keep up a debuff I can do myself.
does vindication work on raid bosses post 3.2.2
Yes.
mark of the relentless or the leviathan’s coil
I would choose the Coil for when you’re dealing with more physical damage (the armor) and the Mark when dealing with more magic heavy fights (more stamina).
shadow strike timer burrower
Every 30 seconds the adds will both pick the farthest player from them and target them for a shadow strike. Interrupt all the burrowers to prevent a one-shot of the target.
0/58/18 paladin spec
When I first saw this query my thought was, “how the hell did this person add up 76 talent points?” Then I realized that they were talking about Cataclysm when we’ll all be level 85. If I had those five extra points now, I would probably put them in Seals of the Pure for a nice threat boost. I think that’d work out to more tps than 3/3 Sanctity of Battle and another 2 points in Conviction. I can’t see anything mitigation-wise that would be a better fit for them.
2% magic reduction meta
Very, very situational. I can count on one hand how many fights that might help in, if at all. Not worth it except as a very narrow gimmick.
245 tank libram of valiance up time
According to the log I did the other day to test Quel’Serrar, 98.3%.
3.2.2 pally tanking with spell power weapon
No, no, a thousand times no. You’d get more threat out of a dps one-hander with a high dps number than a spellpower weapon. Spellpower is dead, get with the times.
anub’arak solo tank adds interrupts
I do this for 10-H and 25-N. It’s totally doable. Having a lot of block value helps significantly.
best prot pally weapon enchant 3.2.2
I’m partial to Blood Draining for the survivability aspect. If you’re hurting for threat, I would recommend Accuracy.
can a paladin interrupt hammer of justice coliseum twin
Yes, assuming the shield is down. Holy Wrath is a better choice for this, though. (Damage and interrupt in one!)
do prot paladins need alot of hit rating 3.2
I am a vocal proponent of hit rating. I strive to always run as melee hit capped (though I don’t gem or enchant for it). There is nothing better than hit to ensure a steady, consistent stream of amazing tps.
fresh 80 tankadin what libram should i get?
Libram of the Sacred Shield! You can easily nab it after 4-5 heroics.
Armory Feed
haven’t seen one of these in a while.
Thoughts:
Honestly, at the gear level where you might be forced to choose between Mark of the Relentless and Leviathan’s Coil, I would always choose Leviathan’s Coil. The defense will give you more flexibility to run higher EH enchants/gems elsewhere, the armor is a nice bonus. If you have access to both rings, I don’t think there’s any real choice.
It’s too early to make decisions about Cataclysm specs, we don’t know the effects of Mastery or Paths and how that might influence speccing. I agree, though, 5/53/18 would probably be optimal with 5 bonus talent points in today’s environment.
2% magic reduction meta: It’s situational enough that I just swap it into a tanking hat for fights that reward it in progression. The only one I can think of that I used it on was Firefighter 25, though, and it’s certainly not strictly necessary there. At ~50g for meta gems, it’s basically on par with switching glyphs or specs for a fight, it’s certainly better to swap it once per week than to use an inferior helm for the meta. And it’s never going to be your “main” meta.
Hit Rating: I miss hit rating. Sooner or later I’ll grab t9.245 pants for threat gearing. Until then, hit rating is pretty much a thing of the past. T9 level gear is massively superior to T8 level gear, and it just doesn’t have any hit on it. Nothing you can do about it, learn to live without it. It’s certainly not a necessary stat, outside of the odd niche application where you absolutely cannot miss a move. Sustained threat with T9 gear and low hit rating is fully sufficient. None of us are going to have much in progression icecrown sets. Hopefully Blizzard is a little bit nicer about giving it out on Icecrown gear.
got my ony10 helm yesterday :P
uber excited… i am almost back upto the melee hit cap… if i got the hit enchant for gloves i would be just a bit over it…
the helm is pure win plain and simple.
@thorianar
16 October 2009 at 5:21 pm #
Thinking about talents in Cataclysm using the current trees seems… illogical. Blizzard said that we would get new talents to be Uncriticable due the removal of Defense Rating and retribution will get new talents to make use of Haste.
Even if those are folded into current talents (Guarded by the Light seems to be right place, but the tooltip would be too long ;)), we don’t know *where* those will sit.
@Rhidach
16 October 2009 at 5:45 pm #
I know, I don’t seriously expect the trees to be the same come 4.0. I was approaching at as an exercise in how to spend an additional five points if we had them today.
“can a paladin interrupt hammer of justice coliseum twin
Yes, assuming the shield is down. Holy Wrath is a better choice for this, though. (Damage and interrupt in one!)”
I don’t think you can interrupt the Twins with Holy Wrath, since they are immune to the Stun and only HoJ interrupts “immune to stun” targets. I did not try this, tho.
@Rhidach
18 October 2009 at 11:40 am #
You can, Holy Wrath works as an interrupt for any undead target.
I almost got enough Triumph emblems to get my tier 9.5 gloves (i got 2 trophies in my bank tee hee).
But i am alarmed if i get it, my current royal glove with hit being replaced will mean even lower hit rating !! Right now i think i am sitting on 170 hit rating, this with my royal gloves being worn!