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	<title>Comments on: When to use Divine Sacrifice in ICC</title>
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		<title>By: Rhidach</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2010/02/02/when-to-use-divine-sacrifice-in-icc/comment-page-1/#comment-2706</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhidach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you turn off Divine Sacrifice immediately you won&#039;t take any damage. There is literally no downside to using a macro to put up the Divine Guardian effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you turn off Divine Sacrifice immediately you won&#8217;t take any damage. There is literally no downside to using a macro to put up the Divine Guardian effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Hairy</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2010/02/02/when-to-use-divine-sacrifice-in-icc/comment-page-1/#comment-2705</link>
		<dc:creator>Hairy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the risk of taking big raid AOE hit exactly between the on/off switching of the divine sacrifice? Considering possible lag, or high latency and the small 6 second window of effectiveness. As it only stops at 20% health, it sounds like this could get you killed by the first following (melee) hit, or perhaps your own part of the AOE hit, if not very well timed. Though I&#039;m assuming you didn&#039;t have any problems with that yourself, unpredicatble things like the exploding ghosts sound risky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the risk of taking big raid AOE hit exactly between the on/off switching of the divine sacrifice? Considering possible lag, or high latency and the small 6 second window of effectiveness. As it only stops at 20% health, it sounds like this could get you killed by the first following (melee) hit, or perhaps your own part of the AOE hit, if not very well timed. Though I&#8217;m assuming you didn&#8217;t have any problems with that yourself, unpredicatble things like the exploding ghosts sound risky.</p>
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		<title>By: I Can Haz QQburger &#171; Bubble Hearth</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2010/02/02/when-to-use-divine-sacrifice-in-icc/comment-page-1/#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>I Can Haz QQburger &#171; Bubble Hearth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] good tankadin should know when to use Divine Sacrifice. A good tankadin does not macro his rotation, so that he can adjust the priority as necessary and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] good tankadin should know when to use Divine Sacrifice. A good tankadin does not macro his rotation, so that he can adjust the priority as necessary and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rhidach</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2010/02/02/when-to-use-divine-sacrifice-in-icc/comment-page-1/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhidach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh woops, I meant Divine Guardian. That&#039;d require 17 points in the prot tree, which I bet is a tall order for a ret pally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh woops, I meant Divine Guardian. That&#8217;d require 17 points in the prot tree, which I bet is a tall order for a ret pally.</p>
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		<title>By: Vorian87</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2010/02/02/when-to-use-divine-sacrifice-in-icc/comment-page-1/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>Vorian87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&amp;n=vorianloken

i am not sacrificing any dps talents to get DivSac in my ret spec :)

the only thing i arguably drop is the AP debuff but i rarely raid as dps so it&#039;s not a concern for me</description>
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<p>i am not sacrificing any dps talents to get DivSac in my ret spec :)</p>
<p>the only thing i arguably drop is the AP debuff but i rarely raid as dps so it&#8217;s not a concern for me</p>
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		<title>By: Rhidach</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2010/02/02/when-to-use-divine-sacrifice-in-icc/comment-page-1/#comment-2699</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhidach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re not really concerned about Divine Sacrifice except as a means to an end. Don&#039;t worry about having to bubble and use DivSac, we&#039;re just turning that on (and immediately off) to activate Divine Guardian. Divine Guardian will stay up even when Divine Sacrifice is off--ignore the description, I have logs to prove it stays up.

Every tank should have Divine Sacrifice. It&#039;s a 20% damage reduction cooldown on a 2 minute timer. And it doesn&#039;t just work for you, but for the entire raid.

It&#039;s probably impossible to get for raiding Ret pallies as they&#039;d have to suffer a dps hit to get that far down into the prot tree. It&#039;s more amenable to &quot;bubble spec&quot; Holy paladins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not really concerned about Divine Sacrifice except as a means to an end. Don&#8217;t worry about having to bubble and use DivSac, we&#8217;re just turning that on (and immediately off) to activate Divine Guardian. Divine Guardian will stay up even when Divine Sacrifice is off&#8211;ignore the description, I have logs to prove it stays up.</p>
<p>Every tank should have Divine Sacrifice. It&#8217;s a 20% damage reduction cooldown on a 2 minute timer. And it doesn&#8217;t just work for you, but for the entire raid.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably impossible to get for raiding Ret pallies as they&#8217;d have to suffer a dps hit to get that far down into the prot tree. It&#8217;s more amenable to &#8220;bubble spec&#8221; Holy paladins.</p>
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		<title>By: Hairy</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2010/02/02/when-to-use-divine-sacrifice-in-icc/comment-page-1/#comment-2696</link>
		<dc:creator>Hairy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never specced devine sacrifice, because I&#039;m still living by the idea that it&#039;s better in the hands of a ret-paladin, combined with devine shield, which I&#039;ll of course could never pop (well not for longer then a fraction anyway in very rare occasions, like when feared or something).

Anyway, can you explain this a bit more? The way you describe it it almost sounds like an exploid: the raid get&#039;s the reduction, but you don&#039;t get the damage, or am I misinterpreting it now? Because it does sound incredibly useful now.

The description states that the effect only works “when divine sacrifice is active”, so I would assume that the effect will be gone if you cancel that aura. So if it does work, that text has been a bit misleading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never specced devine sacrifice, because I&#8217;m still living by the idea that it&#8217;s better in the hands of a ret-paladin, combined with devine shield, which I&#8217;ll of course could never pop (well not for longer then a fraction anyway in very rare occasions, like when feared or something).</p>
<p>Anyway, can you explain this a bit more? The way you describe it it almost sounds like an exploid: the raid get&#8217;s the reduction, but you don&#8217;t get the damage, or am I misinterpreting it now? Because it does sound incredibly useful now.</p>
<p>The description states that the effect only works “when divine sacrifice is active”, so I would assume that the effect will be gone if you cancel that aura. So if it does work, that text has been a bit misleading.</p>
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