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	<title>Comments on: Icecrown (first wing) loot and emblem of frost pick order</title>
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		<title>By: Sapria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sapria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im going for the cape and tinket since those are the weakest spots in my gear, not sure which first.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@wrathy:

Does anyone really have defense troubles these days? Even purposefully avoiding stacking it, I have over 550. I love me some extra armor, and the list of non-set gear has really piqued my interest.
.-= Dave&#039;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://daveandjoel.com/?p=2592&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Show #366: The Ridley Sconslaught.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
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<p>Does anyone really have defense troubles these days? Even purposefully avoiding stacking it, I have over 550. I love me some extra armor, and the list of non-set gear has really piqued my interest.<br />
.-= Dave&#8217;s last blog ..<a href="http://daveandjoel.com/?p=2592" rel="nofollow">Show #366: The Ridley Sconslaught.</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Gathoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gathoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that I had planned out a similar progression to yours, but now, since I have been luck enough to get the shoulders off of Gunship25, I have moved the Corroded Skeleton Key up to the top of my list.  Heart of Iron is my last piece of 226 gear in my main set, so it will finally be replaced come tonight once I hit 60 emblems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that I had planned out a similar progression to yours, but now, since I have been luck enough to get the shoulders off of Gunship25, I have moved the Corroded Skeleton Key up to the top of my list.  Heart of Iron is my last piece of 226 gear in my main set, so it will finally be replaced come tonight once I hit 60 emblems.</p>
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		<title>By: The Renaissance Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Renaissance Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but a good chunk of the non tier badge gear is going to be BiS until you start getting heroic drops. I&#039;d be wary of buying the 251 tier if you&#039;re running 25 mans, but the 264 tanking gear isn&#039;t going to get replaced by drops in the easymode instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but a good chunk of the non tier badge gear is going to be BiS until you start getting heroic drops. I&#8217;d be wary of buying the 251 tier if you&#8217;re running 25 mans, but the 264 tanking gear isn&#8217;t going to get replaced by drops in the easymode instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Meloree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meloree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s way too early to spend, unless you have a massive weakness in your gear that you need to cover up.  I&#039;m personally unlikely to buy anything until we hit heroic modes.  I&#039;d rather not get a drop and suddenly have a slot double-covered with a weak slot elsewhere.

This may be bad advice for 245 geared tanks, but I don&#039;t think so.  We run 2 ICC25s (15 mains, 10 alts), and plan to do that for the entirety of normal modes.  None of our 245-geared alts have had any issues with the tank checks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s way too early to spend, unless you have a massive weakness in your gear that you need to cover up.  I&#8217;m personally unlikely to buy anything until we hit heroic modes.  I&#8217;d rather not get a drop and suddenly have a slot double-covered with a weak slot elsewhere.</p>
<p>This may be bad advice for 245 geared tanks, but I don&#8217;t think so.  We run 2 ICC25s (15 mains, 10 alts), and plan to do that for the entirety of normal modes.  None of our 245-geared alts have had any issues with the tank checks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tijeras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tijeras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the unidentifiable organ may actually be a drop from a later boss in ICC.  It drops off of Professor Putrecide according to wowarmory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the unidentifiable organ may actually be a drop from a later boss in ICC.  It drops off of Professor Putrecide according to wowarmory.</p>
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		<title>By: The Renaissance Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Renaissance Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was writing a comment here, breaking down how you could equip all of the badge and crafted gear and still sit comfortably above 689 defense rating, but it started to turn into one of those giant comments that really shred the rhythm of the page, so I posted it to my blog instead. 

In regards to your choice in purchases, I would question the choice of taking the T10 shoulders first. the fact that there&#039;s a superior set of shoulders off Gunship 25, which is basically free loot that&#039;s actually fun to get, they slipped to just above the new libram on my priority list. Aside from that, I didn&#039;t prioritize the tier very high because I need a mark of sanctification before I can get the 264 tier, and the off set peices in ICC 25 and from Frost Badges outstrip the itemization on the 251 tier very handily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was writing a comment here, breaking down how you could equip all of the badge and crafted gear and still sit comfortably above 689 defense rating, but it started to turn into one of those giant comments that really shred the rhythm of the page, so I posted it to my blog instead. </p>
<p>In regards to your choice in purchases, I would question the choice of taking the T10 shoulders first. the fact that there&#8217;s a superior set of shoulders off Gunship 25, which is basically free loot that&#8217;s actually fun to get, they slipped to just above the new libram on my priority list. Aside from that, I didn&#8217;t prioritize the tier very high because I need a mark of sanctification before I can get the 264 tier, and the off set peices in ICC 25 and from Frost Badges outstrip the itemization on the 251 tier very handily.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently i am just doing what you guys are doing, sitting on mt emblems waiting for the rainy day where i&#039;ll actually need the gear, but untill then i&#039;ve already made my gear sets from the pieces i found on mmo-champ. Wish it would be easier to decide, but heck, this is why it is fun being a tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently i am just doing what you guys are doing, sitting on mt emblems waiting for the rainy day where i&#8217;ll actually need the gear, but untill then i&#8217;ve already made my gear sets from the pieces i found on mmo-champ. Wish it would be easier to decide, but heck, this is why it is fun being a tank.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhidach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhidach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is true, but it looks like the crafted pieces are trading more defense for armor than the offset pieces, so I think I&#039;ll be fine weaving in the offset stuff. My major question is, much like you, I have no idea what I&#039;m missing and should be gearing up to fix. Sure, avoidance would be nice for the first four bosses, but I really don&#039;t need to gear specifically for them because they&#039;re so easy. I&#039;ll be more comfortable making a decision once I&#039;ve seen what the fights in the other wings are like. Until then I&#039;ll just hedge my bets and alternate between avoidance and EH pieces so I&#039;m not caught unawares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true, but it looks like the crafted pieces are trading more defense for armor than the offset pieces, so I think I&#8217;ll be fine weaving in the offset stuff. My major question is, much like you, I have no idea what I&#8217;m missing and should be gearing up to fix. Sure, avoidance would be nice for the first four bosses, but I really don&#8217;t need to gear specifically for them because they&#8217;re so easy. I&#8217;ll be more comfortable making a decision once I&#8217;ve seen what the fights in the other wings are like. Until then I&#8217;ll just hedge my bets and alternate between avoidance and EH pieces so I&#8217;m not caught unawares.</p>
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		<title>By: Wrathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wrathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, you have to remember that most of the pieces that have bonus armor do so at the cost of defense. They have lots of lovely stats but no defense, making it hard to wear all of them (as I am sure blizzard intended). 

As for the badge order, I am in the lucky position of out gearing the instance, so I won&#039;t be picking up anything with badges until I need to. To clarify, after a long discussion and a few blog posts on the subject, I don&#039;t know what I am under geared for yet, magic damage fights, huge unavoidable damage, or lack of avoidance. Until I hit the point where my gear is making a large impact on the success of the raid, I&#039;ll be sitting on my emblems for a rainy day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, you have to remember that most of the pieces that have bonus armor do so at the cost of defense. They have lots of lovely stats but no defense, making it hard to wear all of them (as I am sure blizzard intended). </p>
<p>As for the badge order, I am in the lucky position of out gearing the instance, so I won&#8217;t be picking up anything with badges until I need to. To clarify, after a long discussion and a few blog posts on the subject, I don&#8217;t know what I am under geared for yet, magic damage fights, huge unavoidable damage, or lack of avoidance. Until I hit the point where my gear is making a large impact on the success of the raid, I&#8217;ll be sitting on my emblems for a rainy day.</p>
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