Comments on: Revealed ICC loot makes me a happy tank

By: Alystala

Alystala — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:22:28 +0000

I think that you are maybe being a bit unfair to expertise. According to the inimitable Theck (http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?f=6&t=25611&sid=3d4b2cc253d4b8e93549d793755f3118&rb_v=viewtopic) expertise isn’t actually that bad, at least on bosses that use the parry-haste mechanic (it’s complete shite on bosses that don’t parry-haste admittedly!!).

By: honorshammer

honorshammer — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:18:01 +0000

@Moogle,

I’m sure you’d caveat your staement that Hit is always to superior to Expertise as long as you aren’t Hit Capped. I don’t think any reasonable set of Tanking gear can get you to the Hit Cap, but it’s an important part of the whole equation.

By: Moogle Stiltzkin

Moogle Stiltzkin — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:22:21 +0000

yeah i’d also rather have hit then expertise. Not saying expertise is useless just that hit will take the crown ALWAYS.

By: Vorian87

Vorian87 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:08:40 +0000

all i know is that i love some of this new gear :D

By: The Renaissance Man

The Renaissance Man — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:47:52 +0000

All of a sudden, it doesn’t matter what the paladin T10 looks like, because odds are, none of the paladin tanks are going to be wearing it. +Armor chest, gloves, and pants from badges or crafting, combined with a lackluster 4peice, unless the T10 gear is absolutely perfectly itemized, none of the paladins will be wearing it.

By: Rhidach

Rhidach — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:12:43 +0000

@Meloree: Arrgh, I didn’t see the bonus armor. Dopey mistake on my part.

By: Meloree

Meloree — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:51:28 +0000

@Antigen: It’s debatable if you would want the trinket over ilvl258 ToC stamina trinket. However, I can guarantee you want it over ilvl245 stamina trinket (you can’t use both last stand effects at the same time), and you want it over Heart of Iron just for the raw stam increase. Therefore, it’s an early badge purchase for basically every tank, whether you have dual Juggernaut/Satrina’s trinkets, or not.

By: Meloree

Meloree — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:48:47 +0000

You are wrong about the chest. 1300 bonus armor is amazing.

It is oddly itemized, and I have to assume it’s on purpose. If the expertise and block value were avoidance stats (or even if one of them was), it would be likely to be BiS even over ilvl277 loot that wasn’t itemized with massive bonus armor. It might still be anyway.

That said, all those high-armor badge pieces will have valuable niches in my various gearsets.

By: Rhidach

Rhidach — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:03:12 +0000

What Vorian said, plus it’s 3200 damage that doesn’t have to be healed/eat a healer’s mana, as opposed to ~4000 hp that does. I think damage absorbs require more ipoints to budget than a health boost would, thus the number discrepancy.

By: Vorian87

Vorian87 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:56:02 +0000

more stam, but damage reduction instead of health… however while the health on-use on the TOC trinket lasts 15seconds, the damage reduction on this trinket lasts 20seconds. perhaps that’s the way it works?

plus, still the ptr and subject to change… just like black heart was messed with so many times before the final iteration :P