Comments on: GC sez: LoH only causes Forbearance if self-cast

By: Suicidal Zebra

Suicidal Zebra — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:16:27 +0000

With the exception of Holy Paladins (who could just as easily have a talent which allowed LoH to be used on oneself), how is this objectively better than last weeks version where LoH could not be used on yourself? Different, certainly. Definitely more complicated. But if you start from the proviso that self-LoH was really only an issue in BG’s the approach taken, i.e. Forbearance, is over-complicated and unwarranted.

at least, that my opinion ;)

By: Demogar

Demogar — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:35:19 +0000

I think that is wishful thinking.

I think Blizzard is trying to take LoH completely out of a tank’s spellbook. If they did that then you would still have access to both incredibly reliably which isn’t what they want.

I am not saying that is fair but I think that is their intention.

By: adgamorix

adgamorix — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:08 +0000

It’s still a clunky mechanic. I’m betting we see it change to something closer to AW – you can’t use them within 30 sec of each other or something.

By: Demogar

Demogar — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:21:12 +0000

This is what I figured would be done with it. The first thing I said when I saw the changes was that they should make it only cause Forbearance when it was self cast. If they want to make it so Prot and Ret Paladin don’t use them then this is an elegant solution. If that is their goal.

Being nerfed for PvP sucks. PvP is why I do terrible tanking DPS and can’t get a shorter cooldown on Shockwave to improve my AoE threat and have to rely on Vigilance’s mega threat modifiers instead of increasing our damage. It sucks… hard.

By: Rhidach

Rhidach — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:07:59 +0000

Or a mana wipe making it a huge burden to do.

By: Doxa

Doxa — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:18:32 +0000

I really do think you’re right though. I’d love to have a “stance” to eliminate these issues instead of the constant changes.

The main problem however would be a pally “stance dance”. Ret stance, stance dance, LoH, then back to Ret stance.

As far as I’m concerned I’d even settle for prohibiting the ability to switch stances in combat.

By: Rhidach

Rhidach — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:11:54 +0000

Agreed Doxa. I’ll probably just use my LoH as a pinch heal for someone if I notice they’re about to die.

By: Rhidach

Rhidach — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:11:03 +0000

I question you, Falowin.

By: Doxa

Doxa — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:08:31 +0000

Yeah. I’m pretty damn sick of PvE nerfs as a result of PvP.

This basically means that I’ll never use LoH if I haven’t already used DP. If given the choice between the two I’d pick DP over LoH anytime.

By: Falowin

Falowin — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:35:13 +0000

I think rogues should have Lay On Hands….