Comments on: 5 ways to boost your threat http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:26:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Rhidach http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1788 Rhidach Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:19:11 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1788 That is awesome, congrats Hertrin(a)! Keep dishing out the tps and putting the other tanks to shame. That is awesome, congrats Hertrin(a)! Keep dishing out the tps and putting the other tanks to shame.

]]> By: Hertrin(a) http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1785 Hertrin(a) Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:04:20 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1785 I re-jiggered my spec and my glyphs based on this article and Theck's advice.... A 400dps boost. Ergo - I pulled off the other tank without trying....and am much more effective. Thanks for breaking it down. (And I'm in mostly i219 gear)... I re-jiggered my spec and my glyphs based on this article and Theck’s advice….

A 400dps boost.

Ergo – I pulled off the other tank without trying….and am much more effective. Thanks for breaking it down. (And I’m in mostly i219 gear)…

]]> By: Amberlee http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1782 Amberlee Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:32:38 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1782 Thank you for the info and helpful links! I'll keep reading up on it! Thank you for the info and helpful links! I’ll keep reading up on it!

]]> By: Noobatank http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1780 Noobatank Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:53:53 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1780 I didn't read Adgamorix's post as QQ. I read it as saying that in the right group on the right content, it's not a big deal. If the trash can't one-shot your clothies and your dps can burn down the trash in a couple of casts, it's probably more time-efficient for them to jump right in than to wait for the tank to build aggro. Time is a valuable commodity and they don't sell it on the AH. :) Even before I switched to prot a week ago, I was trying to practice tanking. I did Arcatraz with two other 80s and a 75+ druid. With me in ret spec and about half tank gear, I could never ever get ahead of them on threat on trash, where we all started at the same time. But it didn't matter. Most of us could have soloed a lot of Arcatraz anyway. For bosses they would give me a few seconds to get aggro and I could keep it about 80% of the time. We only wiped once and that was because our holy priest accidentally pulled an entire room of trash. Now I'm prot and went to VH with mostly the same people, me now in slightly better gear. They waited for me to get aggro on all mobs, because they knew it would have been stupid not to, with a noob tank on WotLK content. @Amberlee: go here for more on 969. http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?rb_v=viewtopic&f=6&t=21933#p404160 @Rhidach: thanks for all the info. Other than keeping up Defense, I've gearing with a lot of emphasis on threat because so many dps so far outgear me at this point. I didn’t read Adgamorix’s post as QQ. I read it as saying that in the right group on the right content, it’s not a big deal. If the trash can’t one-shot your clothies and your dps can burn down the trash in a couple of casts, it’s probably more time-efficient for them to jump right in than to wait for the tank to build aggro. Time is a valuable commodity and they don’t sell it on the AH. :)

Even before I switched to prot a week ago, I was trying to practice tanking. I did Arcatraz with two other 80s and a 75+ druid. With me in ret spec and about half tank gear, I could never ever get ahead of them on threat on trash, where we all started at the same time. But it didn’t matter. Most of us could have soloed a lot of Arcatraz anyway. For bosses they would give me a few seconds to get aggro and I could keep it about 80% of the time. We only wiped once and that was because our holy priest accidentally pulled an entire room of trash.

Now I’m prot and went to VH with mostly the same people, me now in slightly better gear. They waited for me to get aggro on all mobs, because they knew it would have been stupid not to, with a noob tank on WotLK content.

@Amberlee: go here for more on 969.
http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?rb_v=viewtopic&f=6&t=21933#p404160

@Rhidach: thanks for all the info. Other than keeping up Defense, I’ve gearing with a lot of emphasis on threat because so many dps so far outgear me at this point.

]]> By: Rhidach http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1779 Rhidach Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:12:07 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1779 9 and 6 refer to the cooldowns on the abilities. The expertise soft cap is 26, which is when a boss will stop dodging your attacks. The hard cap is 56, which is when a boss will stop parrying your attacks. 3/3 Crusade increases your damage done by 3%, and by 6% against Undead, Demon, Humanoid, and Elemental mobs. BV has a formula where it stops contributing to your Shield of Righteousness (ShoR) attack. It's around 3000, give or take. Stacking Effective Health (EH) basically means gemming/enchanting/preferring stamina. Hope that helps, thanks for reading! :) 9 and 6 refer to the cooldowns on the abilities.
The expertise soft cap is 26, which is when a boss will stop dodging your attacks.
The hard cap is 56, which is when a boss will stop parrying your attacks.
3/3 Crusade increases your damage done by 3%, and by 6% against Undead, Demon, Humanoid, and Elemental mobs.
BV has a formula where it stops contributing to your Shield of Righteousness (ShoR) attack. It’s around 3000, give or take.
Stacking Effective Health (EH) basically means gemming/enchanting/preferring stamina.

Hope that helps, thanks for reading! :)

]]> By: Amberlee http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1778 Amberlee Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:04:10 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1778 I liked your article but so many abbreviations confused me (amongst other assumed knowledge topics - prot is just an offspec I dabble in occasionally). Here is a short rundown that hopefully someone can explain. What is a "9" attack"? What is a "6" attack? Why are they called 9 and 6 attacks? What is the expertise hard and soft cap affecting glyphs? 3/3 Crusade? Since I'm not in the game what does this talent do again? BV-ShoR cap?! What does stacking EH refer to? Thank you :) I liked your article but so many abbreviations confused me (amongst other assumed knowledge topics – prot is just an offspec I dabble in occasionally). Here is a short rundown that hopefully someone can explain.

What is a “9″ attack”?
What is a “6″ attack?
Why are they called 9 and 6 attacks?
What is the expertise hard and soft cap affecting glyphs?
3/3 Crusade? Since I’m not in the game what does this talent do again?
BV-ShoR cap?!
What does stacking EH refer to?

Thank you :)

]]> By: Rhidach http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1777 Rhidach Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:14:10 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1777 I apologize Thomas, I have a bad habit of doing that, haha. I'll be more vigilant in the future of delineating abbreviations at the first appearance. I apologize Thomas, I have a bad habit of doing that, haha. I’ll be more vigilant in the future of delineating abbreviations at the first appearance.

]]> By: Theck http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1775 Theck Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:36:59 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1775 @ Adgamorix No, slow weapons really are better for threat. The plot that Argon linked to includes two specs, one with Reckoning and one without. The difference is more noticeable for slower wepaons, but the basic trend of "slow weapon = higher TPS" for a given weapon DPS is there in both sets of data. @ Adgamorix

No, slow weapons really are better for threat. The plot that Argon linked to includes two specs, one with Reckoning and one without. The difference is more noticeable for slower wepaons, but the basic trend of “slow weapon = higher TPS” for a given weapon DPS is there in both sets of data.

]]> By: Thomas http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1770 Thomas Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:46:42 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1770 Very concise and informative article, thank you. Just one minor quibble: could you introduce abbreviations the first time you use them? I realize most of your readers are well aware of what BV stands for but it took me some searching before I came upon 'Block Value'. Very concise and informative article, thank you. Just one minor quibble: could you introduce abbreviations the first time you use them? I realize most of your readers are well aware of what BV stands for but it took me some searching before I came upon ‘Block Value’.

]]> By: Petrus http://rhida.ch/2009/10/21/5-ways-to-boost-your-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1768 Petrus Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:12:26 +0000 http://rhida.ch/?p=1292#comment-1768 Libram of Valiance - if you don't need the extra avoidance, and a lot of times now you don't - you can get a huge threat boost from the 200 strength libram over the 200 dodge one. Libram of Valiance – if you don’t need the extra avoidance, and a lot of times now you don’t – you can get a huge threat boost from the 200 strength libram over the 200 dodge one.

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