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		<title>By: Logan</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adgamorix: Thanks! the setup sounds good, I guess we will have to tweak it to suit our needs, since we only have 1 tree, and no bear tanks, but we do have 2 good  Warrior tanks, a very good DK tank, and 2 Pally tanks, and all of them except for one of the warrior tank, have a DPS offspec or a healing (The other tankadin), so i guess Its doable for us. SEE YA and thanks a lot for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adgamorix: Thanks! the setup sounds good, I guess we will have to tweak it to suit our needs, since we only have 1 tree, and no bear tanks, but we do have 2 good  Warrior tanks, a very good DK tank, and 2 Pally tanks, and all of them except for one of the warrior tank, have a DPS offspec or a healing (The other tankadin), so i guess Its doable for us. SEE YA and thanks a lot for the info</p>
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		<title>By: Falowin</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Falowin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the hallway to be a very easy fight.  Especially if you have a healer looking up the hall to tell you which side to go to.  However, we never really got a chance to get up the stairs which, if I recall correctly from 10 man, was the harder part.

As for the arena.  My biggest difficulty was identifying the next target.  As things get pretty crowded in there I find that a large amount of DPS is lost running around looking for what it is I am supposed to be hitting.  The marking is sporadic and the targets never seem to be in the same area.  The tank is running around trying to grab aggro and the DPS is chasing behind.  It sort of feels like Razerscale did in our very first Ulduar runs.   Alot of people running around trying to do damage to God Knows what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the hallway to be a very easy fight.  Especially if you have a healer looking up the hall to tell you which side to go to.  However, we never really got a chance to get up the stairs which, if I recall correctly from 10 man, was the harder part.</p>
<p>As for the arena.  My biggest difficulty was identifying the next target.  As things get pretty crowded in there I find that a large amount of DPS is lost running around looking for what it is I am supposed to be hitting.  The marking is sporadic and the targets never seem to be in the same area.  The tank is running around trying to grab aggro and the DPS is chasing behind.  It sort of feels like Razerscale did in our very first Ulduar runs.   Alot of people running around trying to do damage to God Knows what.</p>
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		<title>By: Adgamorix</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>Adgamorix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use a six healer/3 tank strategy (Sinners and Saints/The Scryers) to do...well pretty much everything since we don&#039;t have a real 4th tank.

Tunnel - DK tank, Disc priest, Holy Paladin, 2-3 hunters, boomkin, and some ret pallies or maybe a feral druid (six DPS total).

Arena - Bear tank, Prot Paladin, 2 trees, a resto shaman, and me (holy paladin).  Plus the rest of our DPS.  Rogues use ToT/FoK to help with agro, and we point DPS/assist the targets instead of AoEing them (equals greater survivability).  On nights with no Protadin - I heal 51/20/0 and run RF.

I&#039;m not quite sure which targets they kill first - I think the big guys with the WW and/or the healers in close order - then AoE down the rest if there are no &#039;special&#039; mobs remaining.

Once P2 starts, everyone spreads out and avoids the lightning, with the tanks taunting after unbalancing strikes.  Sacrifice/Pain Suppression/etc are rotated after 5 or so stacks.

Good luck!  Fortunately, while he&#039;s a tough normal boss - he&#039;s fairly easy on Hard Mode (wear the Frost Resist ring) compared to the other 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use a six healer/3 tank strategy (Sinners and Saints/The Scryers) to do&#8230;well pretty much everything since we don&#8217;t have a real 4th tank.</p>
<p>Tunnel &#8211; DK tank, Disc priest, Holy Paladin, 2-3 hunters, boomkin, and some ret pallies or maybe a feral druid (six DPS total).</p>
<p>Arena &#8211; Bear tank, Prot Paladin, 2 trees, a resto shaman, and me (holy paladin).  Plus the rest of our DPS.  Rogues use ToT/FoK to help with agro, and we point DPS/assist the targets instead of AoEing them (equals greater survivability).  On nights with no Protadin &#8211; I heal 51/20/0 and run RF.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure which targets they kill first &#8211; I think the big guys with the WW and/or the healers in close order &#8211; then AoE down the rest if there are no &#8217;special&#8217; mobs remaining.</p>
<p>Once P2 starts, everyone spreads out and avoids the lightning, with the tanks taunting after unbalancing strikes.  Sacrifice/Pain Suppression/etc are rotated after 5 or so stacks.</p>
<p>Good luck!  Fortunately, while he&#8217;s a tough normal boss &#8211; he&#8217;s fairly easy on Hard Mode (wear the Frost Resist ring) compared to the other 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhidach</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhidach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Ian&lt;/strong&gt;: Thanks for the tip and the kinds words! :)

&lt;strong&gt;@J:&lt;/strong&gt; Glad to hear it, best of luck to your guild. Hopefully we&#039;ll have the same luck next time we try the fight, haha.

&lt;strong&gt;@Vorian:&lt;/strong&gt; Ah that&#039;s rough! I&#039;m paranoid about situations like that so I always keep a list of gear upgrades I want handy so I won&#039;t accidentally let them pass by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Ian</strong>: Thanks for the tip and the kinds words! :)</p>
<p><strong>@J:</strong> Glad to hear it, best of luck to your guild. Hopefully we&#8217;ll have the same luck next time we try the fight, haha.</p>
<p><strong>@Vorian:</strong> Ah that&#8217;s rough! I&#8217;m paranoid about situations like that so I always keep a list of gear upgrades I want handy so I won&#8217;t accidentally let them pass by.</p>
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		<title>By: Vorian87</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>Vorian87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>had the saronite plated legguards drop last week... and for some reason i was just totally not paying any attention... i usually keep my RB to not ignore gems and when i saw the loot i was like meh.. the other pally tank had it and the DK didnt want it all obv... went to offspec &gt;.&lt;

kicked myself later when i was checking some BiS lists..

i have possibly never raged like that before *sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>had the saronite plated legguards drop last week&#8230; and for some reason i was just totally not paying any attention&#8230; i usually keep my RB to not ignore gems and when i saw the loot i was like meh.. the other pally tank had it and the DK didnt want it all obv&#8230; went to offspec &gt;.&lt;</p>
<p>kicked myself later when i was checking some BiS lists..</p>
<p>i have possibly never raged like that before *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ian: I really like the overall tanking strat, but I would like you to elaborate a bit more on the Dps comp for both groups please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ian: I really like the overall tanking strat, but I would like you to elaborate a bit more on the Dps comp for both groups please.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your blog!  Just wanted to pass on a change that helped my guild make it thorugh Thorim on 25 man.  We used to run with 2-3 tanks but no we roll with 4.  We run with two tanks in the arena and two tanks in the tunnel.  

Both of us in the arena are tankadins who glyph and spec just like you.  We have two rogues who do nothing but spam fan of knives and tricks of the trade to help us pick up aggro on everything that comes our way.  We like to have everybody kill the big guys first and then just waste everyone else as soon as possible.  Usually I wear a couple of block set items on this fight.    

The main tank in the tunnel is a warrior who is accompanied by a ret pally who goes prot (dual spec FTW) just to help keep things fast in the tunnel.  The prot pally puills the first group and the warrior runs ahead and begins working on the next one.  The the prot pally picks up the remining mobs as the warrior heads straight away into the next mob.  That way things are going really fast in the tunnel so that arena is not given a chance to get overwhelmed.  By the way, this strategy requires awesome mobile heals!

Anyways, thanks for all the great work and effort you out into your awesome blog! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your blog!  Just wanted to pass on a change that helped my guild make it thorugh Thorim on 25 man.  We used to run with 2-3 tanks but no we roll with 4.  We run with two tanks in the arena and two tanks in the tunnel.  </p>
<p>Both of us in the arena are tankadins who glyph and spec just like you.  We have two rogues who do nothing but spam fan of knives and tricks of the trade to help us pick up aggro on everything that comes our way.  We like to have everybody kill the big guys first and then just waste everyone else as soon as possible.  Usually I wear a couple of block set items on this fight.    </p>
<p>The main tank in the tunnel is a warrior who is accompanied by a ret pally who goes prot (dual spec FTW) just to help keep things fast in the tunnel.  The prot pally puills the first group and the warrior runs ahead and begins working on the next one.  The the prot pally picks up the remining mobs as the warrior heads straight away into the next mob.  That way things are going really fast in the tunnel so that arena is not given a chance to get overwhelmed.  By the way, this strategy requires awesome mobile heals!</p>
<p>Anyways, thanks for all the great work and effort you out into your awesome blog! :)</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with Thorim.  

We just initiated a strategy that effectively gets us through to Phase 2 (I normally tank the Arena) and even Phase 2 is now running very smoothly (phase 2 is more about DPS execution than anything else).  This week we nailed him on the 2nd or 3rd attempt and are foreseeing smoother kills on him going forward.  

Great fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with Thorim.  </p>
<p>We just initiated a strategy that effectively gets us through to Phase 2 (I normally tank the Arena) and even Phase 2 is now running very smoothly (phase 2 is more about DPS execution than anything else).  This week we nailed him on the 2nd or 3rd attempt and are foreseeing smoother kills on him going forward.  </p>
<p>Great fight!</p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
		<link>http://rhida.ch/2009/06/26/ow-my-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blood elf and all, I DARE any warrior/OP knight to tank in a dress.
We make it look GOOD. Period. I like my Kilt.

And hell yeah, grats on downing Freya. Flux has killed Auriaya as of last night, and ready for the Keepers of Ulduar &quot;headbanging against the wall&quot;, YAY!?
Oh and our GM got the first Fragment of val&#039;anyr from Kologarn (We let him keep it just to see if that could help him yell at us a bit less on wipes, and because it was his birthday)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blood elf and all, I DARE any warrior/OP knight to tank in a dress.<br />
We make it look GOOD. Period. I like my Kilt.</p>
<p>And hell yeah, grats on downing Freya. Flux has killed Auriaya as of last night, and ready for the Keepers of Ulduar &#8220;headbanging against the wall&#8221;, YAY!?<br />
Oh and our GM got the first Fragment of val&#8217;anyr from Kologarn (We let him keep it just to see if that could help him yell at us a bit less on wipes, and because it was his birthday)</p>
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